Pete Patriarch’s Musings

December 13, 2007

Advice for the Nice Girl in School

Filed under: Uncategorized — Pete @ 4:20 pm

Here’s something from Gonzokid. Fantastic advice, the problem is that most women are too ensconced in their entitlement mentality to take it upon themselves to improve. The maximum improvement you will see out of most girls is a willingness to shop till they drop for that ONE outfit which will make them look drop-dead gorgeous, that ONE eye shadow which will make them irresistible, or that ONE workout which will make them shed X lbs.

Anyway, here it is.

Okay, once again the whole “Nice guy/Bad Boy” thing rears it’s head, and it is grumbled “Well, you nice guys were chasing the cheerleaders and left us nice girls alone on the sidelines!”

Okay.  Let’s take a look at that.

Too late for us adults, I am afraid, but here are some frank words and good advice for the High School “Nice Girl.”  So for this, I am drawing from my own experience in High school for a lot of this:

1) Looking like a girl on occasion would help.

Ladies, if we think you are that kind of effeminate boy who is always hovering, we’re likely to get creeped out and think you are the school fag who has a crush on us.  A skirt.  Show off some curves – hell, you don’t have to give us a bunch of cleavage, but it would help to somehow know, “Yes, I have tits and am indeed FEMALE.”  Ditch the baggy and androgynous garb. Unless you are going for a guy who is also turned on by guys, it is not going to help your cause.

2) Look attractive on occasion.

And be this I don’t mean “Look like something out of Glamour shots” but for pity’s sake don’t play up UNattractive as much as possible.  Surprise! If you are trying to be unattractive, people will pick up on it, and read it as “Stay Away.”  Clearasil.  Brush your teeth. Shower.  And while you don’t have to be a supermodel waif, reducing the weight to below “Blubber” is a bonus.  Even the “muffin top” is cool with us, but chances are if you have to lift the roll of fat to undo your jeans, you have some work to do.

3) Ditch the Lesbians

Yes, I know.  You and Julie have been friends since kindergarten.  She is, however, known as the school carpet-muncher, and you two hang around together constantly, and worse yet, you take all these pictures of female singers and post them in your locker.  Whack with the cluebat, girl.  We really don’t think we’re qualified for the position of “Significant Other” as far as you are concerned.

4) Learn to say no GRACEFULLY.

Yes, Little Dorky MacDweeberson is a repulsive creep, who has been hanging around and all but stalking you since the 5th grade.  And then he finally got up the nerve to ask you out, and what did you do? Verbally tore his balls off in front of homeroom class.  Hmm.  How eager do you think any other guy is going to be to risk that razor sharp tongue of yours?

You watch how we treat the Waiter.  We watch how you treat other guys.

5) In that vein – CAN THE MAN BASHING.

Yes, you hold us in contempt as a gender.  We get the message.

6) Or perhaps, “5b.” A woman needs a man…

…as much as she wants a date.  Ya know, ladies, when you send the message that a man is disposable, the only ones who will bother are the ones who don’t mind being disposed of; namely, the guys who will have little interest in you after they cut that next notch on their bedpost.  Just saying.

7) Mind your reputation.

And it is not the “Do you put out?” reputation.  It’s the one that says “Do you cheat?  Are you a tease?  Are you sexually manipulative?  Do you talk about your wild and sexually adventurous past, and only go for vanilla missionary sex now?”

8) Marketing. Marketing. Marketing.

Unless you are willing to initiate things, you will attract the kind of guy as you set bait for.  This means, if you like the “hottie”who is the mechanic, he’ll be in those classes and activities, not in the chess club.  If he never sees you, then yes, he doesn’t know you exist.  You’re a band girl, and hang around the music crowd?  Guess who will be asking you out?

If you don’t like this, then (8b) – you’ll have to do the initiating.

9) Get rid of the chip.

If the first hour of the date is spent with you “laying down the law,” count on you being dropped off when the dance is over, and there being no second date.  We don’t want to date our mommies.  And if you lay down a bunch of rules before the date, you may be stood up.  What time you need to get home, and where you aren’t permitted to go is sufficient “rules.”

10) Being asked for a date IS being “hit on.”  Grow up.

Expect a move to be kissed goodnight.  Hand holding – or some other such stuff.  This will continue, and escalate, until you put an end to it.  Your sisters have taught us this by being annoyed when we are “too slow.”  Believe it or not, 99.9% of us can – and are accustomed to – taking no for an answer.  Don’t freak out.  And if he is moving to slow, I guarantee – if he has worked up the nerve to ask you out, he wants to have sex with you.  If all you want is a kiss, go for that – he won’t turn you down.

11) Be Approachable

The final and most important one.  Lose the “Hard to get” page.  Most guys have a “3 No” rule.  Shoot him down three times running – he gets the hint.  He doesn’t want to ask you out publicly and get shot down publicly – let him take you aside.

And above all – for pity’s sake, if we ask you out, fucking meet us halfway and say “Yes.”



  1. The Bad Girls Club Webisode

    Horrible women, they are not even ashamed. Destroy things, insult, threaten, scream.

    Comment by dd — December 15, 2007 @ 12:44 pm

  2. I just found this blog and read it straight through, the whole thing. Best. Blog. EVER. Thank god someone is saying this stuff.

    Comment by Walter — December 16, 2007 @ 2:23 am

  3. This list actually would work better if it were a list of the qualities MEN should look for in Women.

    Because no woman is going to read this post and “admit” she needs to change…because if she does not behave in the ways you suggest already, it’s too late.

    Comment by Hawaiian Libertarian — December 17, 2007 @ 1:19 pm

  4. Wish i had the talent to write such posts.

    Comment by daily — December 18, 2007 @ 1:06 am

  5. “He is intimidated by another professional woman!”


    Travis and the oncologist.

    Comment by ffd — December 19, 2007 @ 4:05 am

  6. Women threatening men in commercial. If you do not offer presents…

    Canadian who pays child support more than he can pay, despite he is the one who keeps the children physically! In reality it is him who should get child support!
    He loses his house and gets broke.

    She gets half his military pension because it is argued she contibuted to it. She gets remarried and still gets child support, still his children are with him.

    He served in the canadian army one of the most courageous armies in the world.

    DO NOT MARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DO NOT MARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DO NOT MARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DO NOT MARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DO NOT MARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DO NOT MARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DO NOT MARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    DO NOT MARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by kelskkf — December 20, 2007 @ 7:21 am

  7. Disgusting commercial, watch it, I have seen many things but this goes very very far. In this commercial the men are actually killed (you cannot survive such injuries).

    Comment by kelskkf — December 20, 2007 @ 7:26 am

  8. Man in barrel.

    Comment by kelskkf — December 20, 2007 @ 7:44 am

  9. Divorce videos on youtube.

    Look at the stare of Hulk Hogan. Such a strong man completely defenseless in front of his screaming wife who could be so happy.

    Hulk Hogans Wife Wants EVERYTHING in Divorce

    I want a divorce, my wife constantly beats me! (2 of 2)

    I want a divorce, my wife constantly beats me! (1 of 2)

    Crazy Aussie don’t take no sh*t of his wife, who wants a divorce and demands the kids, car, house etc.

    Comment by kelskkf — December 20, 2007 @ 5:15 pm

  10. Hulk Hogans stare is the dazzled stare of every man facing a mad wife.

    Comment by kelskkf — December 20, 2007 @ 5:15 pm

  11. Excuse me, I am repetitive.

    Look at this woman: who looks more believable. Listen to her screeching voice.
    She claims to be battered and screams constantly on the show – that does not look like a battered woman. She approaches him threatening.

    He is calm, even when the step-daughter comes screeching and nearly assaults him.

    They dare even not respecting the moderator of the show. They act so agressively and claim he is bullying them.

    I have seen so many times, now, it seems to be part of their psych.

    Do not marry, this is the result.

    Marriage is serious business, choose your wives wisely and today do not marry at all.


    Comment by kelskkf — December 20, 2007 @ 5:29 pm

  12. Very good movie exactly on point:

    Wife: “Your friend is much better lover than you, I want a divorce, the kids, the credit cards, the house, the checking account. What do you want?”

    Husband: “Nothing, I got the airbag!”

    Comment by kelskkf — December 20, 2007 @ 5:33 pm

  13. Consumer advocates would shrike if businesses made the rules for consumers as the rules are for husbands during divorce and marriage.

    It is a bad deal to “buy” a marriage.

    Comment by kelskkf — December 20, 2007 @ 5:40 pm


    The website shows how much is left of 50.000€ for a single or a married man.

    Marriage is not worth it anymore. It is a one sided contract, the disadvantages arre much too big.

    Do not fall for the cuteness of a woman.

    Comment by kelskkf — December 21, 2007 @ 6:44 am

  15. “They are afraid to be seen expressing thought because they are sexually insecure,” Dr Spurr said. “They want to be seen to be real men and the standard for real men wouldn’t be seen to express a thought.

    Remember: if you do not say a lot of stupid things you are sexually insecure!

    Comment by kelskkf — December 21, 2007 @ 10:59 am

  16. Obese wife with child: do you really want such a wife?

    Comment by kelskkf — December 21, 2007 @ 11:27 am


    Dating for rich men and beautiful women – rebirth of old philosophies.

    I thought women wished to have a career themselves? Am I mistaken?

    Comment by kelskkf — December 21, 2007 @ 11:33 am

  18. These crazy people argue that Jamie Lynn should abort.

    One 21 year old says she would have aborted at 16 and even at 21.

    These women throw away theri most fertile years.
    She will wait till 30 and then realise that no man wants her anymore.

    If they have sex they should be responsible.

    One man (!) says she sould abort because of overpopulation and global warming.

    The people are crazy these days.

    Comment by kelskkf — December 21, 2007 @ 12:01 pm

  19. Whore Hunters The Unofficial Documentary


    Comment by kelskkf — December 22, 2007 @ 11:40 am

  20. modern mothers living on crack.

    Comment by kelskkf — December 22, 2007 @ 12:04 pm

  21. Good luck getting the self-described “Teen Nicegirl” to listen to it, let alone accept it as gospel truth. Unless it comes out of Cosmo, which it won’t, because the women and gay men that work there have no more idea what the heterosexual male is interested in than “Sex in the City” or any other source women go to for the ‘truth’ about men.

    Men, despite being labeled the ’emotionally inept’ sex, do actually have the ability to grasp emotions. They’re not going to risk getting shot down when all the warning signs point to being shot down. They’re also going to take the hint. When women devalue and write off legitimate male gripes, men will get the message that their issues are of no consequence to women and they’re either going to go fuck off and do something else or (God-forbid they’re married) they’re simply going to quit talking and quit paying any more than cursory attention to women.

    This young woman wants to get a niceguy? Start treating quality men like they’re important to her. She’ll wind up being treated like she’s important to them in return. It’s really that fucking simple.

    Comment by VoodooJock — December 22, 2007 @ 11:37 pm

  22. “The Nice Guy” (Complete Version)

    “The nice guys are somebody you want in the future” says a girl.

    Here we have it out of a womans mouth: the sucker comes to rescue her, when she is old.

    Comment by kelskkf — December 23, 2007 @ 7:02 am

  23. “The Nice Guy” (Complete Version)

    “The nice guys are somebody you want in the future” says a girl.

    Here we have it out of a womans mouth: the sucker comes to rescue her, when she is old.

    The bad guy is a challenge and is exciting they say.

    These women make a mistake: when they are old, men will not run after them.

    Comment by kelskkf — December 23, 2007 @ 7:06 am

  24. He served in the canadian army one of the most courageous armies in the world.

    You’ve got to be kidding,right? “Courageous” compared to who?

    Comment by Anonymous — February 8, 2008 @ 9:10 am

  25. P the P…. Where ar you?

    Comment by M — February 16, 2008 @ 7:43 pm

  26. @ 9. “We don’t want to date our mommies.”
    And I don’t want to date my father.

    “Yes, you hold us in contempt as a gender. We get the message.”

    Thats a little ironic coming from the same guy who supposedly said this:

    Comment by no one — March 2, 2008 @ 7:55 pm

  27. And I wouldn’t change a damn thing if I were to write that today.

    Comment by Pete — March 3, 2008 @ 7:27 pm

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