Pete Patriarch’s Musings

November 13, 2009

Holy shit, is it women that are messed up or am I behind the times?

Filed under: Uncategorized — Pete @ 6:29 pm

I’ve been minding my own business, you know, for the last year or so that I haven’t posted here. I don’t even know how many readers I have anymore, so this might be like a shout out in space.

But holy shit, I just have to say something about what I just read on this forum. And I know that my opinion won’t be a popular one so I won’t even bother commenting there. I’d be probably be called a patriarchical old goat.


Okay, let’s start from the top:

Feeling guilty about messing with a “2 Weeks Till 18”

So I got invited to a hotel party on Friday night. One of my friends uncles was getting married, and invited a bunch of us up for the reception and after party.

There was lots of booze, and LOTS of beautiful girls all around me. So naturally, I was a total horndog by the end of the night.

At around 10pm I saw this girl who kept staring at me. She was in a group of like 3 other girls, and they were all just staring at me and giggling and being weird. So I had a friend (girl) of mine casually go investigate, and she very nonchalantly sidled the group of girls to hear what all the commotion was about.

She then came back to me, and told me “The one in the middle there thinks you’re like the hottest guy shes ever seen.” So at that point I signaled her to come over and talk with me, and we left loud dance floor area to go talk out in the hallway.

I asked her how old she was and she says “2 weeks and ill be 18”

Right away I started frowning in my mind, and tried to wrap up the conversation. She asked if she could have my number, and said.. here give me your number quick and ill call it so you have mine. No chance to give out a fake, so I figured, okay why not.

As the night progresses, I start getting more and more intoxicated, and thusly.. very horny.

I started thinking about the girl in my mind… but kept dismissing it immediatley thinking to myself “No! You’re 25! Shes like 7 years younger then you!”

But then I thought to myself, okay… shes still young. Maybe she just wants to make out for a while because shes bored too. I suppose that would be okay. Obviously at this point, I was just making up excuses, and jusifying this in my own mind.

I seriously couldn’t help myself. She was really cute, and normally, I’m not a boob guy… but she had the most perfect set of boobs I had ever seen in my life. Of all of the girls I had ever fooled around with, or fucked… these were the best. Top notch, A+ boobs.

So I called her. We went out to the car, started making out, she took off her bra and lowered her dress. It was quite a sight to behold. It took absolutely everything I had to stop it there.

I don’t know if she would have gone all the way, but it was certainly heading in that direction.

All in all it was the best 20 – 30 minutes of fooling around with someone, where it DIDN’T lead to sex Ive ever experienced.

And now I feel like a total creep. She’s probably thinking I was 20, maybe 21… but I never told her. She never asked.

She’ll be 18 by the end of the month, but I’m not quite sure thats what is bothering me the most.

I really have no moral obligation to the law, so its not like I really cared that much about breaking it. I think its that I am 25, and she is 18. Thats 7 whole years. Maybe if I were 32, and she were 25, it would be a different story, but alas…. it is what it is.

Now its Monday, and shes already contacting me again. I’ve never wanted to have sex with someone so bad in all my life, but this guilt is driving me crazy.

Anyone ever had a similar experience? Any suggestions on how to proceed?

Now, I’m a total horndog myself and I fully support this guy wanting to get with a hot and horny chick with “the best boobs ever”. Hell, I’d applause them going out and all that good stuff. Why not, right? As long as she’s legal, and there’s no morality in the USA so everything goes. And if it ain’t legal, well the Pussy Pass only works for one gender so keep that pen out of the fresh ink boys!

Let’s move on to a month later.

*Update* We made plans to make this all happen. Although, there was a lot of shit going on in the backround that I was pretty much clueless to.

She informed me of her exact situation. It basically went like this. She has this guy, who is also 18. Who is like the love of her life. He is NOT a virgin… and according to her, she is embarassed by her inexperience.

She basically told me that when she saw me she was immediately attracted to me, and after we messed around for a bit, she saw me as a perfect candidate to teach her a few things.

However, it was made very clear that she was looking for the opposite of what most girls would be seeking in their first mate. She basically told me right out that she wanted her first time to be based on raw lust and physical attraction… and to save the “love making” for this other guy shes known for years.

I must admit, this threw me off a bit… but truthfully, it was the best news I could have ever heard. I have no interest in this girl as an actual partner. I’m just horny. So, we set a date (saturday before last), and went through with it.

I cleaned up the house a bit, and had her come over. No dinner/movie, no candles lit all over the place and rose petals on the bed. It was down to business pretty much right off the bat.

We took it slow, fooled around for about a half hour to get the juices flowing, and I asked her one last time if she was sure she wanted to continue. She was, and we did.

Now, I’ve really only had sex with a handful of girls before, but this was like on a whole nother level. Granted, I’ve never had sex with someone I’ve been in love with, and even though I am certainly not even “in like” with this girl, it was probably the greatest night of my life.

The fact that she needed it to go slow, made it easier for me to last longer. It was far more sensual then I thought it was going to be… and by far the best time I’ve ever had doing the deed. In fact, it was almost a little scary how good it actually was. For a second there I was worried I was gonna become addicted to virgins or something.

I will admit, it was on my mind for a day or two afterwords… and that kind of freaked me out. However, luckily, as of this past weekend I started seeing a girl that I really really care about. Shes beautiful, and thankfully, the same age as me.

It’ll be an experience I wont soon forget… and it was a bit flattering that this girl chose me to be her first based purely on animal lust.

I’m sure something like this won’t happen again, and I’m fine with that. If it does however come up again… there will be no hesitation from me.

Okay, back the fuck up here. Let’s recount:

1. Girl is an 18 year old virgin.

2. Guy is a respectable 25 year old guy. I’m not saying anything to shame the guy at all – he could be a thug and it would be the same. But just for the purposes of this list, he’s a white collar 25 year old guy making his way in the world.

3. They hook up. Guy is not even in college anymore, girl is just out of high school.

4. There is no relationship.

5. Girl sees her virginity as something cheap, worse than worthless, something that could somehow actually make her undesireable to this stooge she’s been playing for the last X years. What in the fuck?!?!

Okay, so I’m completely out of touch with western society. I can’t even fathom a world where I could get together with a girl like this. If I was that other guy, I’d completely cut this fucked in the head woman out of my life. What kind of world do we live in where even a sweet and “innocent” girl actively dives into the hookup culture feet first, in her first sexual experience? What the fuck? Seriously?

Lightening up a little bit, it looks like our dear hero is also falling in love with her youthful nubile charms even though he meant not to. ;•)

Hormones are a powerful thing. Who wants to bet that the girl’s ability to love is damaged by treating her first time as if she were in a teen flick? Sex and love are waaay more closely related than the hookup culture thinks.



  1. That’s why I call our current Dystopia, our BraveNewWorldOrder.

    Welcome back to blogging!

    Comment by Hawaiian Libertarian — November 13, 2009 @ 7:09 pm

  2. I’m having the same reaction as you, trying to comprenend why this woman actually thinks her guy would have a problem with her virginity. However, something is amiss, even though it is possible that she is confusing female sexuality (women being less than enthusiastic to a virgin male), to male sexuality (virgins are great!) I actually think that this is just a rationalisation for her to loose her virginity to an ‘alpha’ male, rather than her ‘beta’ boyfriend she has know for years.

    Comment by Monad — November 13, 2009 @ 7:43 pm

  3. Holy shit you’re alive! I thought the thought police had come and put you into life long solitary confinement! I hope you start blogging regularly again because you’re blog was my favorite MRA site.

    Comment by Mike Hunter — November 13, 2009 @ 8:35 pm

  4. seriously guys? the fact of the matter is that women’s virginity is made out to be this holy grail that only the most immaculate man can touch…how about your first times? teenage, silly, awkward, etc? why is is the women have to uphold to old-school patriarchal crap and guys can lose it whenever they can, because that’s closer to the truth, and women have to find some sort of heavenly encounter? what kind of double standard bs is that? she wanted to save the best for the dude she digs and throw you the learning exercise…and this somehow makes you superior? maybe she wants to offer the guy she likes something more than she’s offering you, but you’re so stuck on her virginity that her involvement in the act means nothing. it saddens me that so many males only care for the simple fact of ‘virginity’ but nothing for the woman or emotion behind the act.

    Comment by seriously — December 3, 2009 @ 10:58 pm

  5. I guess where my mind is at is that the guy who had waited and been faithful got screwed over sticks in my craw.

    I’ve been the faithful patient romantic guy (high school) and got treated like a door mat. I’ve been the alpha “friend with benefit” one night guy – and it rocked.

    But, as we mature we hope to gain from our experiences – the girl was scum.

    The guy wasn’t a real trooper either, but that girl had obivously had beta-male waiting on the promise and premise of “WE will do this TOGETHER”, and then gave it to some guy she literally hung out with a grand total of 2 times.

    That’s messed up.


    Comment by L. Steven Beene II — December 11, 2009 @ 5:15 pm

  6. @seriously, it looks like men care more for the woman and emotion behind the act than women do today. Let me guess, you’re also a filthy slut who can’t keep her legs shut? lol.

    Comment by Pete — December 17, 2009 @ 10:04 am

  7. The woman can have sex with whoever she wants. She doesn’t owe anybody anything.

    Comment by Ms A — January 12, 2010 @ 5:52 pm

    • True. She doesn’t even owe her boyfriend any sort of fidelity. She’s a MODERN AMERICAN WOMAN! And she’s not going to be held back from sucking and fucking by no PATRIARCHY!

      Comment by Pete — January 13, 2010 @ 3:03 pm

  8. it is very true, half of the women today are without a doubt are BRAIN DEAD. so many women with THEIR SHIT DON’T STINK OF AN ATTITUDE PROBLEM. they are so very hard to COMMUNICATE WITH, and they will walk away. how are men suppose to meet GOOD WOMEN, since many of them are so FUCKED UP TODAY? then again, many women are into other women these days. LESBIAN PIGS.

    Comment by VERY TRUE SAYS — June 30, 2012 @ 4:29 pm

  9. so many women today, are DEFINITELY FUCKED UP. they are the main cause of the DIVORCE RATE being so out of control now. it is VERY HARD for us GOOD MEN nowadays meeting a DECENT WOMAN, since many of them have such a BAD ATTITUDE, and are so very hard to TALK TOO.

    Comment by — July 18, 2012 @ 11:23 am

  10. many women are so brain dead these days, with their shit don’t stink of an attitude problem. then again, so many of them were certainly DROPPED ON THEIR HEADS AT BIRTH.

    Comment by VERY TRUE SAYS — August 29, 2012 @ 4:14 pm

  11. since many of the women today seem to have an attitude problem, mental issues, and are basket cases, i would certainly say so.

    Comment by The Absolute Truth — January 26, 2013 @ 1:42 pm

  12. where are the June Cleaver and Donna Reed women nowadays?

    Comment by ThisIsTrue — April 8, 2013 @ 3:06 pm

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