Just saw this on Russian Women’s blog: Russia’s Women are still reluctant to go dutch.
Billboards across Moscow advertising a women’s magazine are raising female consciousness by asking Russia’s fairer sex: “Are you ready to pay half to be independent?”
It’s a question with increasing relevance because growing numbers of young Russian women are moving into management positions, earning good salaries and boosting their spending power. But for most, the answer to the question for now is still a resounding “no”.
“When you go out with a guy, even if you’re just friends and there’s no romantic subtext, you would always expect him to pay,” says Svetlana Kolchik, deputy editor of Russia’s Marie Claire, which paid for the adverts. “When I discuss dates with my girlfriends, one of the first questions is ‘Did he pay for you?’ If he did, it’s always a good sign.”
He predictably makes excuses for women. Russian in this case, but he could just as easily be a mangina at work telling you how you need to wine and dine the whores so they will sleep with you, and this is what we pathetic worm-men need to do. Any bets on whether he was that annoying mangina before he left for the russkies?
Olga, a 24-year-old journalist, explains that many of her friends keep their wallets in their handbags not out of stinginess but for the sake of their boyfriends’ pride. “With all the provincial beauties in town, there are 20 women for each decent man. If you get a decent man, you better keep him. So they don’t reach for their wallets so the man doesn’t feel uncomfortable when other people look at him like he can’t pay for dinner.”
This is rich. Let’s look at the thought process… there’s a lot of women, and you when I get a decent man, I want to keep him. And I will do this by … expecting gifts and free meals. Hahah. Who is this girl trying to fool?
Anyway, while reading this I was totally thinking about how I would never even consider a woman who wanted dinners and expensive gifts as a pre-condition to date me. My girlfriend made a point of (genuinely) wanting to pay at our first date, and we’re still together after five years, sticking together through thick and thin and being more intimate than many married couples. I have never gotten the feeling that she’s a gold-digger any more than all women are in general, its in their nature to want stuff from their man but some just go overboard, drunk with their sexual power.
This is why I got so annoyed at RW’s view…
First off when it comes to dating Russian or FSU Women the KEY THING that any Man needs to realize is that you are being offered a UNIQUE opportunity to show your leadership in a budding relationship by TAKING RESPONSIBILITY for the date.
TAKING RESPONSIBILITY in any dating situation at the very MINIMUM means PAYING FOR THE BILL.
If you neglect to do this then you have FAILED a major test in the eyes of a Russian Lady.. And honestly you will probably not get another opportunity to correct yourself.
A Russian Woman will think of it in these terms..
“If he can’t TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for a simple cafe bill how can he possibly TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for me or our future children?”
Yes, your entire character and upbringing is laid out along with your personality with a simple action – paying for the woman! The woman, who is too fucking stingy to take out her own pocketbook and would rather spend the money on vacuous fucking bags, shoes and make-up. Oooh, but that doesn’t say anything about her character. Oh, and don’t worry. Once she has her hooks in you right and proper, it’ll be your privilege to pay for those matching Blahniks and LV’s too! And RW has the shaming language to make sure you don’t complain one bit.
All of that raises the question of what exactly it is that wealthy Russian women do spend their money on.
“We have a very consumerist attitude so will still spend money on a Max Mara coat or Armani suit,” says Ms Kolchik. “Women spend most of their money on looking beautiful for their man; and in fact, for all men. Even if we’re happily married, it’s in our genes to compete for men and male attention.”
Sorry, but I do not want to subsidize your wanting to compete for other men’s attention even when you’re married. Maybe someone a bit more cuckolded than me would disagree, but this is my view.
Oh, but the best is yet to come!
Keep this in mind even if you are out socializing with a lady friend with whom you don’t intend to have a romantic relationship with.
It’s still important to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY in this situation because all Women Talk..
And having a Russian Lady who is a good friend is the greatest way to gain a future endorsement from one Russian “sister” to another.
Think of it in these terms..
When a Russian Lady “allows” you to pay the bill..
She’s opening the door for you to take the next step and to come in on a deeper level.
Yes! You also have to pay if its just a friend you’re going with to lunch or dinner or presumably drinks! How fucking awesome!
Is RW actually a woman? Because I haven’t seen many men who can contradict themselves so well. So is she “just a friend” or is she a cocktease who “could be opening the door to her pussy” if he pays all the time?
Of course, it may just be the type of women RW hangs around that only hang around if they’re paid to do so.
And guess what the chicks will be talking about in their potty break. “Oh my god, those expensive drinks get me blitzed so fast! Did you check out that hottie near the flowerpot? He was totally checking me out! I think I’m going to go home with him, let’s ditch our patsy.”
Fundamental human nature is the same, and I don’t think there’s a code of honor anywhere on this green-and-blue earth that says men have to pay for women in a platonic situation. Nope, not even in the US. Nobody will try to shame a man into paying for woman friend, even though the guy just might be stupid enough to want to pay.
Here’s a post by a Russian woman living in Austria who enjoys when other people pay for her with no obligation on her part…
And the bills should be paid by men I earn more that an average man in Austria, for example. But men pay when we go out with me(friends or colleagues – because I am happily married). And you know what? – I can see it on their faces that they are proud to pay my restaurant bill. really. Guess why?
I don’t know what that smiley at the end is supposed to mean. Why are they proud to pay her restaurant bill? Does she slob their knob at the end or something?